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Today's headlines:
A 20 year-old Marine reservist declares himself a conscientious objector. We’ll hear the statement of Stephen Funk, the Marine who said no today and we’ll speak to his lawyer and spiritual advisor, a conscientious objector from the First Gulf War;
We’ll also speak to the parents of a soldier who was just sent in to battle. While the son faces death in Iraq, the parents say no to war;
Also, an update from Voices in the Wilderness on the situation in Baghdad after 24 hours of ferocious bombing;
The Knight Report

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8:00:00 PM PST
Dennis Bernstein: introduction:

8:00:00 PM PST
Robert Knight and the Knight Report.. Robert: US 3rd infantry division shoots dead 7 women and children at a checkpoint in Iraq.. (UK Guardian story).. Robert Fisk identifies Baghdad marketplace bomb as Texas made.. Raytheon the culprit.. Rumsfeld in shizophrenic denial, blames Franks for faulty plan, then calls plan brilliant.. Powell in Turkey, on way to Brussels

8:04:58 PM PST
Dennis: Marine Corp reservist Stephen Funk declared himself a consciencious objector (CO).. let's listen to what he had to say today.. audio: (applause).. Stephen: they steal money from.. the poor and give to the rich.. they steal from the soldier.. they level homes.. shatter families.. wars destroy lives, creating wounds that may never heal.. I am a CO.. no way to remain a Marine without sacrificing my self-respect.. everyone knows in their heart that killing is wrong.. the military teaches killing is justifies.. coerces people into killing.. I refuse to surrender my dignity, I refuse to kill.. the military demands obeidence, but I will not obey (applause).. I know it demands courage to say no in the face of coertion.. I hope this war comes to a quick end..

8:07:35 PM PST
Dennis: now w National Lawyers Guild attorney, Stephen Collier.. Collier: Stephen Funk spoke in front of the base.. made his statement in civilian clothes, and then dressed in uniform and turned himself in.. he was AWOL while preparing his CO application.. could face a harsh response.. but looks like he will be released.. about the legal definition of CO.. his beliefs crystallized in boot camp, when he was told to 'kill, kill', and in rifle training, when his drill sergeant told him he wouldn't shoot so well on a real battlefield, he grokked on the fact that yes he was opposed to killing.. he wants other young people to understand.. boot camp is about pounding out your sensitivities.. now w reporter Duncan Campbell of the London Guardian.. Duncan: I spoke to him on Sunday.. in Britain we have had a similar situation, three soldiers sent home from Iraq, complaining about the treatment of civilians there.. I was in San Diego, met a number of teenagers that had just joined up.. realized it would take a lot of courage to turn around after boot camp and say they didn't want to take part in it.. about the three British soldiers, I understand they have been sent back to Iraq.. had expressed their unhappiness about civilian deaths.. Collier: there was another CO in Salt Lake City before the war started.. he was discharged quickly.. if the military turns around and takes a hard line with us, we have a legal fund, and will defend him.. Dennis: any response from his fellow Marines?.. Collier: no, not yet.. Dennis: his reaction to the killing yesterday of seven women and children by young soldiers yesterday? soldiers who will never be the same.. Collier: his sympathies are with both groups.. Notice: GI (CO) Hotline 800-394-9544

8:24:11 PM PST
music break Phil Oakes

8:16:21 PM PST
Dennis: now w Amy Alison, spiritual advisor to Stephen Funk.. Amy: I joined the Army reserves to help pay my way through Stanford.. a recruiter lured me in.. I didn't think about the realities of war.. about the moral or ethical implications.. a common attitude.. not until I got into boot camp.. stabbing human shaped dummies.. offended me morally, as a 17 teen year old, I realized I hadn't considered the implications.. my believes crystalized in boot camp, but was in the reserves for four years before I learned there was a legal way to resist.. two years later, my application was denied.. declaring myself a CO is the most important thing I have ever done.. telling the world that killing is wrong, inside the military and outside.. being a person of color, millions of dollars are targeted in military advertising toward us.. now w Judy Erlich.. mad a film about CO's.. Judy: seeing Amy beside Stephen today, I could see the footsteps that Stephen was following (Amy was president of Stanford when she claimed CO status).. Amy: about Stephen Funk.. about his path to CO.. told his drill sergeant that 'yes I think you're right I wouldn't to well in war, I believe killing is wrong'.. I connected him with CO's from the last Gulf War.. his unit had already been ordered to the Gulf.. with great pride I saw this young man, tell a sea of cameras and soldiers that killing is wrong and he will not participate.. Judith: there is a real sense of relief.. when Stephen stood up and.. showed his strenght of character, speaking up for what he believes in.. Amy: I was shocked and relieved when Stephen's commander came out and said he would not arrest Stephen but would have him report everyday to his unit, will not have to stay in the barracks, and will process him out as soon as possible.. a great day for peace loving people.. Notice: GI (CO) Hotline 800-394-9544

8:40:16 PM PST
music break Not In Our Name

8:41:53 PM PST
Dennis: now w Slane Moonie of Voices in the Wilderness and the Iraq Peace Team.. Slane: reading email coming out of Iraq from Voices in the Wilderness members.. from Kathy Brain (sp?): yesterday we visited a woman whose home had been damaged by the bombing.. listened to Bush's speech.. he said 'humanitarian help is on the way'.. outraged us.. the woman asked, why was the Oil for Food program stopped?.. we went to the poor neighborhood where the market was bombed the day before.. us two Americans stood out, but no one insulted us.. but a boy shouted," Bush and his soldiers are cowards, they attack us from afar, they do not fight face to face.. let them come here.." about a carfull of reporters in Kuwait.. rented a car and drove straight through to Baghdad today.. a group of Christian Peacemakers and Iraq Peace Team members, ordered out of Iraq.. narrowly missed being attacked by a US airstrike..

8:48:04 PM PST
Dennis: now w Nancy Lesson and Charlie Richardson, founders of Military Families Speak Out .. about their son Joe.. now on his way to Iraq.. Dennis: I imagine you are concerned about your son.. like the horrible shooting of seven to ten women and children.. the young soldiers involved in that incident will have to live with that the rest of their lives.. Nancy: we absolutely believe our troops need to be supported, and they need to be brought home now.. Dennis: Oliver North a Fox *reporter* now embedded with a Marine unit.. saying people that speak out against the war are traitors.. Charlie: OLIVER NORTH IS A TRAITOR.. we are trying to.. keep the US from becoming a country that goes around the world invading other countries.. Nancy: when Joe went into the service, a different world, before 911, we were concerned something like this might happen.. about the checkpoint shooting yesterday.. we knew innocent people were going to get killed, and our kids turned into cannon fodder.. about our organization.. none of us want our loved ones to be involved in this kind of.. war crimes.. Notice: GI (CO) Hotline 800-394-9544

8:57:29 PM PST
End today's show. today's review by John Lionheart

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